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This Bon Appetit recipe makes my mouth water--three inches of fresh ginger & pepitas! I need advice for how to substitute "2-1/2 cups flour." I have terrible luck with "all purpose GF flour mixes."

It's a savory bread, so almond flour? Corn meal? Sorghum? Garbanzo bean? All of the above, and in what proportions?

Ginger Pumpkin Bread

INGREDIENTS

Nonstick vegetable oil spray
2½ cups all-purpose flour
2 tsp. ground cinnamon
2 tsp. kosher salt
1 tsp. baking powder
½ tsp. baking soda
½ tsp. freshly grated nutmeg
⅛ tsp. ground cloves
2 large eggs
1 15-oz. can pumpkin purée
1 Tbsp. plus 1 tsp finely grated ginger (from about one 3" piece fresh ginger)
1½ cups plus 1 Tbsp. sugar
1 cup extra-virgin olive oil
½ cup raw pumpkin seeds

PREPARATION

Preheat oven to 325°. Lightly coat a 9x5" loaf pan with nonstick spray. Line bottom of pan with parchment, leaving a generous overhang on both long sides.

Whisk flour, cinnamon, kosher salt, baking powder, baking soda, nutmeg, and cloves in a medium bowl.

Whisk eggs, pumpkin purée, ginger, and 1½ cups sugar in a large bowl. Stream in oil, whisking constantly until mixture is homogeneous. Gently fold half of dry ingredients into egg mixture until no dry spots remain. Repeat with remaining dry ingredients, stirring to combine but being careful not to overmix.

Transfer batter to prepared pan; smooth top with a spatula. Scatter pumpkin seeds over batter, pressing lightly to adhere. Sprinkle seeds with remaining 1 Tbsp. sugar. Bake bread, rotating pan once halfway through, until a tester inserted into the center comes out clean, 80–90 minutes.

Let cool slightly, then run a knife or small offset spatula around pan to help loosen bread. Using overhang, transfer bread to a wire rack and let cool.

Do Ahead: Bread can be baked 4 days ahead. Cover tightly with plastic wrap and keep at room temperature.

so, another quick bread

Date: 2019-10-25 07:03 pm (UTC)
harmonic_tabby: (Default)
From: [personal profile] harmonic_tabby
I have had success converting bar cookies, brownies, what have you, with a combination of almond flour and coconut flour.

The general ratio I use is three parts almond flour to one part coconut flour; so for this recipe I'd probably just go with two cups almond and a half cup coconut. I make sure to mix the flours together well (in my sifter!) before adding to the wet ingredients so there aren't clumps of one or the other.

I find almond flour by itself is missing a little gravitas? sturdiness? something that the coconut flour adds back in with its density.

Good luck and happy noshing,

Tabs

Date: 2019-10-25 08:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] topaz_eyes
What problem are you having with the all-purpose GF mixes? Is it taste, or texture, or...?

Re: Yes!

Date: 2019-10-26 02:44 am (UTC)
harmonic_tabby: (Default)
From: [personal profile] harmonic_tabby
Well, not to make anyone upset but if one types 'papier mache' you get the recipe for a perfectly acceptable adhesive that's been used for centuries... made of nothing but flour and water mixed into paste.

I'm considering that the beating activates the wheat gluten slightly in a standard recipe to provide the body which avoids that 'paste' reaction; but rice flour doesn't have that gluten and so you get poor texture. The baking mix I use (Pamela's) is a mix of almond and rice flour and so the pastiness seems to be averted.

I don't have much experience with bean flours...almond and coconut and rice seem to work just fine for me so I stopped exploring. I find corn meals and corn flours to be 'corny' and I suspect I'm just primed to notice the taste. It's lovely in some breads and muffins but I think I'd find it jarring in a apple cinnamon breakfast muffin.

It will be interesting to see if anyone else has other suggestions. That recipe does sound very good and I'm thinking I'll be mixing it myself.

Tabs

Re: Yes!

Date: 2019-10-30 01:26 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] harmonic_tabby
I use the baking and pancake mix to make pancakes and muffins AND the sour cream coffee from the recipe on the packaging (yuummmmmmm). It also makes a pretty nice crumble topping for apple crisp, which we've eaten three times in the last two weeks (the recipe is available on Pamela's website).

If I'm starting from scratch I use the mix of almond flour and coconut flour, usually for brownies or chocolate chip blondies...

I also have rice flour, potato starch, teff and some sorghum flour which I could use if a recipe called for them but I've got a pile of favored recipes and don't deviate much from them since it's only me and the husband to eat 'em.

Tabs

Re: Yes!

Date: 2019-10-26 05:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] topaz_eyes
Yeah, unfortunately it's the gluten that provides the texture and crumb in baked goods using wheat flour. I personally add xanthan gum (1/2 tsp per cup GF flour) to provide the crumb.

My go-to GF flour mix is rice + tapioca flour + cornstarch (6:1:1), but it is bland and tends toward gritty. For protein, you could replace 1/4 to 1/3 of the rice flour with bean or soy; these also help increase the density of the baked good. I prefer soy; bean is a much more noticeable flavour, but you've got the spice and ginger to balance it. I've also used sorghum in the mix; it's a lighter flour that adds extra sweetness.

And I agree with [personal profile] fred_mouse; you may have to play with the liquid.

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Edited Date: 2019-10-26 05:51 pm (UTC)

Re: Yes!

Date: 2019-10-30 01:51 am (UTC)
topaz_eyes: (chocolate cake)
From: [personal profile] topaz_eyes
Looks like I left out another word there, whoops...

I use brown or white rice flour in the mix (not plain rice, heh, though if you grind your own flour it would work). I like brown rice better b/c it includes the bran and germ.

Date: 2019-10-26 05:05 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sonia
I wanted to convert a banana bread recipe recently and found a blog post that recommended 1 lb white rice flour whisked with 1/2 cup tapioca starch. I had bought some sorghum flour, so I substituted sorghum for 20% of the white rice flour. Sorry for the annoying mix of measurements - I haven't posted the recipe because I would have to do it again to report everything in grams and cup measures.
https://www.thekitchn.com/glutenfree-baking-how-to-make-132517

Anyway, it came out delicious with a velvety pound cake texture. Maybe I'll make the mix again for this recipe, which looks yummy!

Date: 2019-10-29 11:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sonia
Mmm, that looks worth trying! Less sugar too. I'm going to try skipping the millet flour though - I already have too many other kinds sitting around! I just bought some cassava flour, so I might try putting that in.

Date: 2019-10-30 07:31 pm (UTC)
sonia: Quilted wall-hanging (Default)
From: [personal profile] sonia
I used sorghum flour, white rice flour (didn't notice it was supposed to be sweet until I was in the middle of putting this together), cassava flour, and tapioca flour. I used coconut oil for the neutral oil. Despite substituting so much, it turned out a fine dense loaf that I'm happily snacking on.

I might still try the other one sometime with the freshly grated ginger. I didn't want to fuss with that last night.

Date: 2019-10-26 01:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] fred_mouse
I have found that sorghum or buckwheat mixed 2:1 with any of corn, tapioca, or potato works for almost anything. And that this doesn't have to be carefully measured, as long as the total flour is right. However, the liquid may need to be adjusted - don't add it all first up, and see whether it is needed.

Commercial mixes are either to heavy on rice flour and thus are gritty, or are too heavy on the tapioca/potato, and thus are rubbery.

Date: 2019-10-30 12:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] fred_mouse
The total liquid will vary quite a bit. Some combinations need it cut back, which I why I always start with a bit less. Some will need a bit more. I tend to be a judge it as I go person, because I don't cook often enough to remember, and I did my teenage bake-every-weekend training with wheat.

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